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Re: Soliciting criticism (Yikes!)



Sorry for the jumbled up mess.  My PC has a hardware problem.
I suspect an intermittent memory error in the L2 cache.
The result was a hashed e-mail being sent and a crashed PC.
It runs OK for days then crashes twice within an hour.

What I intended to say was that sps2x's PSF fitting looks
to produce a graph with better slope, I think because it
can make use of energy out in the wings of the PSF or in
other words "more pixels per star".  The Mk IV's
PSF is not a figure of revolution and it is also not constant
over the image.  But SPS assume it is both.  I think this is
a source of scatter: the stars fall on different parts of the
frame and have a different PSF each time they are seen.  What
is needed is a better PSF model. One the uses a non-constant,
two dimensional PSFs.

If I am correct then processing data from just the central
portion of each image should have less scatter, but you will
have fewer observations of each star.

Chris Albertson wrote:
> 
> Just looking at the thumbnail pictures of the two graphs
> I can see the slopes are diferent.  I think you have a good,
> graphic and intuitive way to compare data reduction pipelines.
> You want all the green and red points to lie on a straight
> horizontal line on the bottom of the graph.
> sps2x uses,sps2x uses, I think PSF fitting while sextrator does aperature
> photometery.   I think PSF fitting while sextrator does aperature
> photometery.
> One thing required by the psf fitting technique is a good psf
> model.
> 
> "Creager, Robert S" wrote:
> >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > I'm hoping some of you have the desire to critique, and offer suggestion
> > > about the graphs here: http://robertcreager.mystarband.net/ .  The are all
> > > from Tom's data, night 2157 (from a few weeks ago).  As the graph titles
> > > imply, one is reduced from source extractor, and one from sps2x.
> > >
> > > Speaking of source extractor, does anyone have a set of values which might
> > > be appropriate for reducing Mark IV images?  I grabbed Glenn Gombert setup
> > > from 1996, but at this point, I'm shooting in the dark as to how to
> > > improve the reduction.  If anyone wants to direct, I'll be happy to make
> > > changes and keep re-running the reduction.  It takes about 4 hours from
> > > start to finish for reducing night 2157, so I can get two runs per day at
> > > home.
> > > The basic steps are:
> > > *     Create master dark and flats from median data
> > > *     Adjust the object data by: mean * (object[i][i] - dark[i][j] ) /
> > > flat[i][j] where mean is the mean of a central box of the flat field
> > > *     Do the reduction (sps2x, source extractor) in V-I pairs
> > > *     Match the reduction data to transform into ra/dec
> > > *     Try to match both to subset of Tycho2 data
> > > *     If both match, use in next step
> > > *     If only one matches, match other band to the matching one to
> > > calculate ra/dec
> > > *     Collate the V-I pairs from previous
> > > *     Solve for magnitude adjustment from collated data
> > > *     Use stars which match the Tycho2 subset
> > > *     Fit a line to the raw color (V-I) vs. magnitude delta (Tycho2 -
> > > measured) for each V and I
> > > *     Iterate over the line fit, removing 4 sigma data, until either no
> > > more data was removed, we've removed too much data (10% removed) or the
> > > RMS error is below 0.05
> > > *     Import star list into database, and match stars within 0.004
> > > degrees.
> > > *     Produce graphs included from the previous data
> > > The majority of the stars in the graph have 30+ measurements.
> 
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   Chris Albertson             
   Redondo Beach, California
   home:   310-376-1029   chrisalbertson90278@yahoo.com
   cell:   310-990-7550
   office: 310-336-5189   Christopher.J.Albertson@aero.org