RE: Multiplication of White Elephants

[Tom Droege <tdroege2@earthlink.net>]

I think Louie the Liquidator is about to find out that he has raised his 
price too quickly.  He will be lucky to find anyone else that wants these 
units.  For $1800 you can buy redundant hard drives with the same capacity 
as 500 CD ROMs.  In fact, Louie has a bunch of them that he will sell 
you.  It is only those of us that have a big stack of CD data that they 
want to read from time to time that might be interested.  So if you are 
interested, sit tight and wait.  The price will come back down, I 
predict.   Of course, he might sell all at the higher price.  We shall see!

Tom Droege


At 01:59 PM 10/3/02 -0600, you wrote:

>Two questions:
>
>How did you rate $350?  I see $599...
>
>In your browsing, did you see any problem with putting CD-RW in it?
>
>Thanks,
>Rob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Droege [mailto:tdroege2@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: October 03, 2002 1:29 PM
> > To: Creager, Robert S
> > Subject: Multiplication of White Elephants
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > Note that they are not yet tested to work.  Ron will shortly have one and
> > I
> > have 2.
> >
> > The jukeboxes came from:
> >
> > "Louie The Liquidator " <louie@machine.hitechcafe.com>
> >
> > Looks like they still have 8 left:
> >
> > http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/product.asp?sku=DRM+5004X+&dept_id=3
> >
> > Now you can get your very own!  My two cost $700 + $200 shipping.
> >
> > Yours may cost less due to you being closer.
> >
> > Mark Twain understood well that humans will all jump on a good
> > thing.  Later we will all keep quiet about our White Elephants.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > At 01:15 PM 10/3/02 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> > >I'm jealous.  Where did you pick them up from?
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tom Droege [mailto:tdroege2@earthlink.net]
> > > > Sent: October 02, 2002 10:31 PM
> > > > To: tass@listserv.wwa.com
> > > > Subject: CD Jukeboxes
> > > >
> > > > I am now the proud possessor of two 500 disk Poineer DRM-5004x CD
> > > > Jukeboxes.  It is a not so long story.  Ron Wickersham sent me a note
> > > > telling me these were available surplus for $350 each.  I could not
> > resist
> > > > and thinking I would send one on to Ron I ordered two of them.
> > > >
> > > > Today a big truck pulled up.  About 500# of stuff was unloaded.  I had
> > > > been
> > > > looking at desk top CD units and did not think much about the size.
> > 500
> > > > is
> > > > a lot of disks.  So the unit is refrigerator size.
> > > >
> > > > So far I have only gotten part way into the box, but the suspicion is
> > that
> > > > it comes with no documentation or software.  Besides the changer
> > >mechanism,
> > > > it comes with two 4x CD readers.  I suspect that one might be able to
> > > > change out to faster units.
> > > >
> > > > The control is SCSI.  You can find out more by searching on DRM-5004X
> > > > using
> > > > Google.  I quickly found a lot.  It would appear that I will need
> > software
> > > > to do the simplest things.
> > > >
> > > > Possibly one of you uses such drives in their work.  Possibly someone
> > > > knows
> > > > how to select software for this unit.  I would be willing to buy
> > > > commercial
> > > > software to run these units from a Linux box if that is possible.
> > > > Possibly
> > > > one of you can get hold of a service manual for this device.
> > > >
> > > > Note that I already have enough good data on disk to fill both of
> > these
> > > > units.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that I have purchased two white elephants.  Still, nice to
> > have
> > > > a
> > > > pair if I do make use of one of them.
> > > >
> > > > You will be amused that I get a 90 day warranty.  To activate it I
> > send in
> > > > a letter to ***IBM*** with which Pioneer has arranged to provide
> > > > service.  If it do this, then an IBM service representative will show
> > up
> > > > promptly when I need service.  No doubt one service call will cost
> > more
> > > > than both units.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Droege