Re: Mark IV data off by one day

[Thomas Droege <tdroege2@earthlink.net>]

Gary et al, 

OK, I give up on Manderville.  Looks like we need more asteroid candidates.

Tom 


> [Original Message]
> From: Gary W. Billings <obs681@telusplanet.net>
> To: <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> Date: 6/12/2004 10:28:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
>
> It looks like you are on GSC 1480 0046  V=12.0, B-V = 0.6
>
> Re colour, asteroids are mostly slightly reddish...  so the colour you
> report might be fine.  I'd have to do more research...
>
> g.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Droege" <tdroege2@earthlink.net>
> To: "Billings, Gary W." <obs681@telusplanet.net>; <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
>
>
> > OK, for my "2453109" day I have:
> >
> > 220.54282 18.95576 2453109.76631 V 11.97 I 11.29
> >
> > The only other objects close to this position had big V/I differences
and
> > were at least a mag off.  I notice little difference between V and I. 
Is
> > this a clue that it might be an asteroid?  I assume we have some color
> > information for Manderville as a check?
> >
> > Tom Droege
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Gary W. Billings <obs681@telusplanet.net>
> > > To: <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> > > Date: 6/12/2004 9:48:31 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
> > >
> > > Nope, that looks like GSC 1480 0085
> > >
> > > According to Guide the coords you want are 220.46520, 19.08608 (for
the
> > > 2453110.76631 date)
> > > and
> > > According to Guide the coords you want are 220.57550, 18.97102 (for
the
> > > 2453109.76631 date)
> > >
> > > g.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas Droege" <tdroege2@earthlink.net>
> > > To: "Richard Miles" <rmiles.btee@btinternet.com>; "Billings, Gary W."
> > > <obs681@telusplanet.net>; "tass" <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
> > >
> > >
> > > > OK, a quick look at 2453109 gave an object at:
> > > >
> > > > 220.70681 18.85319 2453109.76631 V 12.18
> > > >
> > > > If this matches up with the asteroid position on 2453110.76631 then
we
> > > > probably have it.  I will look now at 108.  It is a race between Tom
> > > > gawking the list and Mike extracting stuff from his data base.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Droege
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > From: Richard Miles <rmiles.btee@btinternet.com>
> > > > > To: <tdroege2@earthlink.net>; Billings, Gary W.
> > <obs681@telusplanet.net>
> > > > > Date: 6/12/2004 2:53:08 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary / Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't rule this idea out just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > The best of the candidate asteroids looks to be 739 Mandeville,
> which
> > > was
> > > > > near 220.7 deg RA and +18.9 deg Dec on the date in question.  This
> > > object
> > > > > was nominally at V=12.0 and moving at 13 arcmin/day.  Therefore it
> > > should
> > > > be
> > > > > possible to discriminate the actual day from images taken.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Richard Miles
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. tried sending to TASS list earlier but my new address was not
> > > > > recognised and so it was thrown out.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Thomas Droege" <tdroege2@earthlink.net>
> > > > > To: "Billings, Gary W." <obs681@telusplanet.net>;
> > > <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:54 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gary,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A good idea.  It does not have to move much.  So a search for an
> > > > asteroid
> > > > > > in the data would tell since our astrometry is usually good to 1
> arc
> > > > > > second.  An astroid that moved a few arc seconds a day would
tell
> > the
> > > > > tale.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone want to take this on?  What we need are mag 9-11
asteroida
> > that
> > > > > move
> > > > > > say 10 or more arc seconds a day somewhere between 160 and 270
> > degrees
> > > > in
> > > > > > RA and 18 to 50 degrees in Dec.  The day is 2453109 If you get
the
> > > > > position
> > > > > > of asteroids at the time that they cross the zenith they will be
> > > pretty
> > > > > > close in time to when I measure them.  I will need a few,
because
> > the
> > > > way
> > > > > I
> > > > > > was taking data in April only covered about half the sky.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom Droege
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > > > From: Gary W. Billings <obs681@telusplanet.net>
> > > > > > > To: <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> > > > > > > Date: 6/10/2004 9:03:42 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Mark IV data off by one day
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If there are any frames from the day in question that
captured a
> > > > > > > sufficiently bright moving asteroid...  that could move from
> > > "absence
> > > > of
> > > > > > > evidence" to "evidence of absence" of a day error...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > g.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Thomas Droege" <tdroege2@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > To: "Man, Stupendous" <richmond@stupendous.cis.rit.edu>;
> > > > > > > <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> > > > > > > Cc: <mwrsps@rit.edu>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:24 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Mark IV data off by one day
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is an attempt to look another way at the possibility
that
> > the
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